From spreadsheet to simulation: a coupled EMag-thermal workflow, run side-by-side with the static loss-table handoff it replaces
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The Demagnetization Risk Hiding in Your 800V Motor's Thermal Spreadsheet

As Indian EV platforms move to 800V and SiC, legacy thermal margins stop working. Here's what a real coupled EMag-thermal workflow looks like — and where most teams cut corners.

Indian EV platforms are moving toward 800V faster than legacy thermal design rules can keep up. Mahindra's INGLO architecture — the platform underpinning the BE 6 and XEV 9e — runs a compact 3-in-1 motor-inverter-transmission housing designed with headroom to accept SiC power electronics as the platform scales up in voltage. Tata Motors, meanwhile, has been developing its premium Avinya range around a high-voltage 800V architecture co-developed with Jaguar Land Rover. Whichever platform an OEM lands on, the direction is the same: higher switching frequencies and higher motor speeds mean more heat, concentrated in a smaller volume, faster than legacy 400V design margins were ever built to handle. That shift matters more for thermal engineers than almost anyone else on the motor team.

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The Handoff That's Quietly Breaking

Ask most thermal engineers how they get loss data from the EMag team, and the answer is usually: a spreadsheet. Copper loss, iron loss, magnet eddy current loss — calculated at a handful of operating points, exported as static numbers, and pasted into a thermal model as fixed boundary conditions.

That handoff loses information in three places. First, it's usually calculated at only a few load points, not the full duty cycle. Second, it's static — it doesn't account for how losses shift as temperature rises (winding resistance increases with heat, which increases copper loss, which raises temperature further). Third, it's manual, which means every design iteration means someone re-running numbers and re-copying them, with real risk of a stale value slipping through unnoticed.


What "Coupled" Actually Means

A properly coupled workflow passes the electromagnetic loss map directly into the thermal solver as a function of operating point and, ideally, temperature — so the thermal model sees the same transient loss behavior the motor will actually experience, not a handful of static snapshots.

Heat concentrated at the winding ends on a cross-sectioned e-motor — the zone a coupled EMag-thermal loop is built to track before it reaches the magnets
Heat concentrated at the winding ends — exactly the zone a coupled EMag-thermal loop is built to track before it reaches the magnets.

When magnet temperature is part of that loop, you also get a read on demagnetization risk: rare-earth magnets lose coercivity as they heat up, and past a certain point that demagnetization becomes irreversible. Class F and Class H insulation limits define your winding ceiling; the magnet's temperature-dependent coercivity curve defines the other one. Both need real transient data, not a single worst-case number, to design against with confidence.


Where This Bites Hardest

At high operating frequencies (10–20+ kHz SiC switching), standard low-frequency sinusoidal estimates fail. SiC inverter PWM harmonics induce non-negligible high-frequency iron losses and rotor magnet eddy current losses.

FEA mesh and flux-line overlay showing localized hot spots at the winding ends — the failure mode a static, low-frequency loss estimate tends to miss
FEA mesh and flux-line overlay showing localized hot spots at the winding ends — the failure mode a static loss estimate tends to miss.

Setting It Up Properly

A coupled EMag-thermal workflow, done right, looks like:

Thermal response compared across operating points and design iterations — the iterate-the-loop step in a coupled workflow
Thermal response compared across operating points and design iterations — the loop step 5 below is built around.
  1. Generate the loss map (copper, iron, magnet eddy current) across the full torque-speed operating envelope, not just rated point
  2. Pass it into the thermal solver as a function of operating point and winding/magnet temperature
  3. Run the coolant-side model (water jacket, oil spray) against real transient duty cycles, not steady-state assumptions
  4. Check peak magnet temperature against the demagnetization curve at end-of-life conditions, not fresh-magnet properties
  5. Iterate the loop — because a hotter magnet changes electromagnetic performance, which changes the loss map you started with

Most teams do step 1 well and stop there. The teams that avoid late-stage demagnetization surprises are the ones that close the loop back to step 5.

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